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Weigh in... your opinion, that is

2008-06-05T20:36:21Z

Discuss some interesting topics on CreateDebate like these:

http://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/Does_modern_Christianity_miss_the_mark

http://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/Do_you_believe_in_God_2

http://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/Jesus_Christ:_Fact_or_Fiction

http://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/Are_Mormons_Christians

http://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/Was_muhammad_a_pedophile

http://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/Security_vs_Religious_Freedom:_Respond_to_the_Marine_handing_out_Christian_coins

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Creation Museum

2007-06-13T15:34:39Z

have you all planned to make it your vacation destination?

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Atheism: Contemporary Rates and Patterns

2007-05-01T19:28:48Z

From The Cambridge Companion to Atheism Edited By Michael Martin http://www.pitzer.edu/academics/faculty/zuckerman/atheism.html

Assessing rates of belief or disbelief among large populations is extremely difficult. Determining what percentage of a given society believes in God – or doesn’t -- is fraught with methodological difficulties, most importantly: 1) low response rates, 2) non-random samples, 3) adverse political or cultural climates, and 4) problematic cross-cultural terminology. A brief discussion of each is warranted before presenting an accumulation of statistics concerning rates and patterns of atheism worldwide...

...Any assessment of the rates and patterns of atheism worldwide must keep the above methodological limitations in mind. That said, the enterprise isn’t completely futile. We can make reliable estimates( iii ). Though methodological flaws hamper all sociological inquiries, in the words of Robert Putnam (2000:23): “we must make do with the imperfect evidence that we can find, not merely lament its deficiencies.”

Below is a presentation of the findings of the most recently available surveys concerning rates of atheism, agnosticism, and non-belief in God in various countries worldwide( iv )...

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Evangelist sued for claiming that God heals

2007-01-17T01:50:34Z

From The Independent http://news.independent.co.uk/world/americas/article2119116.ece

By Sadie Gray
Published: 02 January 2007

A tele-evangelist with a large following across the United States is being sued by relatives over her claim that prayer cured her brother's throat cancer.

Darlene Bishop's claims appear in her book, Your Life Follows Your Words, which fails to mention that her brother, the songwriter Darrell "Wayne" Perry, died of the disease 18 months ago.

Mr Perry's four children have filed a lawsuit against their aunt for wrongful death, claiming that she persuaded him to stop chemotherapy and to depend instead upon God's healing.

Mrs Bishop, who is co-pastor at a 4,000-congregation Ohio church, also claims that prayer cured her of breast cancer.

In her blog she dismissed the allegations as "complete lies", adding that he had been in remission for more than a year when the book was published.

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SelfAwareness*~--ThinkingRevolution--;;Listening;;

2006-08-08T01:02:33Z

http://sitepalace.com/StevenMannettetje/
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/selfawarenessthinkingrevolutionlistening-
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/realize2actualize/

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South Dakota

2006-02-25T00:17:23Z

well, it could have come from anywhere really, it was just a matter of time . . .

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Infidel

2006-01-15T07:42:33Z

I was going to buy or make a shirt with the word infidel on it....but then I saw this
http://www.infideltees.com/home.php I think it's funny how they call it a "Pro America Shirt" actually it's just anti muslem. I tend to think of it more like the second definition......I need a new word. http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=infidel some of these are just nasty but I like a few of them http://www.atheists-online.com/catalog.asp .

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The root of evil

2005-12-21T18:01:27Z

The power a man can achieve by claiming to hear the voice of God.. Scary how so many people die in the name of religion.

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help SAVE Arctic National Wildlife Refuge FROM the "Son of the Bus*"

2005-10-13T22:54:06Z

his is VERY important...

Together we CAN save the Arctic National Wildlife refuge!
Congress is closer than ever to turning the pristine, unspoiled Arctic National Wildlife Refuge into an industrial oil field, but there is still time to save the Refuge! That's why a coalition of conservation, labor, religious and other citizen groups representing millions of Americans who believe the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge should remain wild, unspoiled and free of oil rigs have joined together to create Arctic Refuge Action.

Please sign a petition and get active to stop the "mad fake cowboy"!!!!!

You can find it on: www.arcticrefugeaction.org/

Peace and a I hope for a Planet Earth clean of bad Bush(es)!

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FFRF.org

2005-08-12T17:16:41Z

Is everyone here aware of the FFRF? Freedom From Religion Foundation.

http://www.ffrf.org/

They have a couple great quizzies everyone should check out.

http://www.ffrf.org/quiz/

I post all kinds of articles & more from them in the "Separation of church & state" tribe all the time. I have become a member & get their newspaper "Freethought Today" - the only Freethought newpaper in the US. Make the suggestion to carry it at your local library. I did.

Feel free to join the "Separation of church & state" tribe -

http://separationofchurchstate.tribe.net/?_click_path=Application%5Btribe%5D.Tribe%5B33a1a1b1-5094-4f84-97b1-d473485a26a0%5D&r=10389

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nest of conservatives

2005-06-03T18:01:19Z

any of you live in a nest of conservative/republican/Catholics like me? I'm in Kansas.

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How do we get back at fundamentalists and take away from them what they take from us?

2005-04-19T03:51:21Z

As the subject says:
How do we get back at fundamentalists and take away from them what they take from us?

I'm REALLY angry right now.

I just found out (old newspaper) that the woman from PBS who apparantly organized the "Buster" episode that included a lesbian couple and their kids, had to leave her job due to the problems fundamentalist Christians and other religious idiots gave her over it.

This has been building up in me for some time now and if I don't do something about it, it's going to kill me. I have to find some group that's already trying to organize a 'takedown' of sorts of these types of religious bullyings, or start one of my own. But I don't know where to go or how to start one, or where I can find one. I've googled till I can't anymore and I don't know what else to do.

Please offer any advice on how I can find a group that wants to start a MAJOR backlash or how to start one. I want to find some way to take everything from them that they've taken from us and show their elitist as*es what it feels like to be treated like sh*t.
AMBER

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THE NAZI - MOSLEM TERRORIST LINK!

2004-08-18T10:32:14Z

While this is long, it is VERY important information which everyone who cares about 9-11 and the terrorists war with us NEEDS to know!

First, is the authors website so you can
see that he is extremely well qualified to be making the statements he does. (Of course, you can read it before, or after reading the following information.)

http://www2.john-loftus.com/

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OK People, while I do really do not like what I read below there is nothing I can do about it other than let others know of it.
So please take the time to carefully read this.

The information below is very important for everyone to know.

Subject: Nazi Muslims

From a speech given by JOHN LOFTUS to a Jewish group.

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It always seems a little strange to have an Irish-Catholic talking about Yom Ha Shoah. Still, I had a very unusual education about the Holocaust.

When I was working for the Attorney General, I was assigned to do the classified research about the Holocaust, so I went underground to a little town called Suitland, Maryland, right outside Washington, D.C. and that's where the US Government buries its secrets - -
literally.

There are twenty vaults underground and each vault is one acre in
size. Anyone see the movie "Raiders of the Lost Ark"?
The last scene of that movie is what the underground vaults are really like, only not as organized as they are in the movie.

In those underground vaults I discovered something horrible. I
learned that many of the Nazis I had been assigned to prosecute were on the CIA payroll!

Only the CIA didn't know they were Nazis because the British Intelligence Service had lied to them.

And what the British Intelligence Service didn't know was that their liar was Kim Philby, the Soviet communist double agent - - a little scandal of the Cold War.

Still, our State Department swept it all under the rug and allowed the Nazis to stay in America until I was stupid enough to go public with it.

What do you do when you want to go public with a story like this one?

You call up 60 minutes.

We had a great time. Mike Wallace gave me 30 minutes on his show.
For a long time, it was the longest segment that 60 minutes ever did.

When the episode about Nazis in America went on the air back in 1982, it caused a national uproar. Congress demanded hearings, Mike Wallace
got the Emmy award, and my family got the death threats.

It was a great trip.

Then a funny thing happened. Over the last 25 years, nearly every retired spy in the U.S. and Canada and England all wanted me to be their lawyer, for free of course.

I had 500 clients, they paid me $1 apiece.
So while I am the worst paid lawyer in America, I'm among the better employed.

Let me give you an example. This year a friend of mine from the CIA, named Bob Baer wrote a very good book about Saudi Arabia and terrorism, it's called "Sleeping with the Devil".

I read the book and I got about a third of the way through and I stopped. Bob was writing how when he worked for the CIA how bad the files were.

He said, for example, the files for the Muslim Brotherhood were almost nothing. There were just a few newspaper clippings.

I called Bob up and said, "Bob, that's wrong. The CIA has enormous files on the Muslim Brotherhood, volumes of them. I know because I
read them a quarter of a century ago."

He said, "What do you mean?"

Here's how you can find all of the missing secrets about the Muslim Brotherhood -- and you can do this too.

I said, "Bob, go to your computer and type in two words into the search part. Type the word "Vanna," V-a-n-n-a. He said, "Yeah." Type in "Nazi."

Bob typed the two words in, and out came 30 to 40 articles from around the world.
He read them and called me back and said, "Oh my God, what have we done?"

What I'm doing today, is doing what I'm doing now: educating a new generation in the CIA that the Muslim Brotherhood was a fascist organization which was hired by Western Intelligence and has evolved over time into what we today know as al Qaeda.

Here is how this story began.

In the 1920's there was a young Egyptian named al Bana who formed a nationalist group called the Muslim Brotherhood.

Al Bana was a devout admirer of Adolph Hitler and wrote to him frequently. So persistent was he in his admiration of the new Nazi Party that in the 1930's, al Bana and the Muslim Brotherhood became a secret arm of Nazi Intelligence.

These Arab Nazis had much in common with the new Nazi doctrines. They hated Jews; they hated democracy; and they hated the Western culture.

It became the official policy of the Third Reich to secretly develop the Muslim Brotherhood as the fifth Parliament, an army inside of Egypt.

Then when war broke out, the Muslim Brotherhood promised, in writing, that they would rise up and help General Rommell and make sure that no English or American soldier was left alive in Cairo or Alexandria.

The Muslim Brotherhood began to expand in scope and influence during World War II. They even had a Palestinian section headed by the grand Mufti of Jerusalem, one of the great bigots of all time. Here, too,
was a man - - The grand Mufti of Jerusalem was the Muslim Brotherhood representative for Palestine.

These were undoubtedly were Arabs who were Nazis. This "Grand Mufti" went to Germany during the war and helped recruit an international SS division of Arab Nazis. They based it in Croatia and called it the "Handjar" Muslim Division.

It was to become the core of Hitler's new army of Arab fascists that would conquer the Arab peninsula from then on to Africa

- - grand dreams.

At the end of World War II, the Muslim Brotherhood was wanted for war crimes and their German intelligence handlers were captured in Cairo. The whole net was then rolled up by the British Secret Service.

Only a horrible thing happened. Instead of prosecuting the Nazis and the Muslim Brotherhood - - the British government hired them.

They brought all the fugitive Nazi war criminals of Arab and Muslim descent into Egypt, and for three years they were trained on a special mission. The British Secret Service wanted to use the fascists of the Muslim Brotherhood to strike down the infant state of Israel in 1948.

Only a few people in the Mossad know that many of the members of the Arab Armies and terrorist groups that tried to strangle the infant State of Israel were the Arab Nazis of the Muslim Brotherhood.

And Britain was not alone. The French Intelligence service cooperated by releasing the Grand Mufti and smuggling him to Egypt, so all of the Arab Nazis came together.

While from 1945 to 1948, the British Secret Service protected every Arab Nazi they could, they still failed to quash the State of Israel.

What the British did then, was that they sold the Arab Nazis to the predecessor of what became the CIA. While it may sound stupid; it may sound evil, it did happen.

The idea was that we were going to use the Arab Nazis in the Middle East as a counter- weight to the Arab communists. Just as the Soviet Union was funding Arab communists, we would fund the Arab Nazis to fight against them.

Lots of secret classes took place. We kept the Muslim Brotherhood on our payroll.

Only the Egyptians became nervous and Gamal Nasser ordered all of the Muslim Brotherhood to either get out of Egypt or be imprisoned, and he would execute them all.

During the 1950's, the CIA evacuated the Nazis of the Muslim Brotherhood to Saudi Arabia. When they arrived in Saudi Arabia, some of the
leading lights of the Muslim Brotherhood like Azzam, became the teachers in the Madrasas, the religious schools.

There they combined the doctrines of Nazism with this weird Islamic cult, Wahhabiism.

Everyone thinks Islam is this fanatical religion, it is not. They
think that Islam - - the Saudi version of Islam - -is typical, and it's
not.

The Wahhabi cult was condemned as a heresy more than 60 times by the Muslim nations.

Yet, when the Saudis got wealthy, they bought a lot of silence. This
is a very harsh cult.

The Wahhabiism was only practiced by two nations, the Taliban and Saudi Arabia. That's how extreme it is.

It really has nothing to do with Islam.
Islam is a very peaceful and tolerant religion. It has always had
good relationships with the Jews for the first thousand years of its existence.

For the Saudis, there was a ruler in charge of Saudi Arabia, and they were the new home of the Muslim Brotherhood,so fascism and extremism were mingled in these schools.

And there was a young student who paid attention - - and Azzam's student who was named:

Osama Bin Ladin.

Yes, Osama Bin Ladin was taught by the Nazis of the Muslim Brotherhood who had emigrated to Saudi Arabia.

In 1979, the CIA decided to take the Arab Nazis out of cold storage. The Russians had invaded Afghanistan, so we told the Saudis we would fund them if they would bring all of the Arab Nazis together and ship them off to Afghanistan to fight the Russians.

We had to rename them.

After all, we couldn't call them the Muslim Brotherhood as that was too sensitive a name. It's Nazi connection was too known.

So we called them the Maktab al Khidimat il Mujahideen, the MAK.

And then the CIA lied to Congress and said they didn't know who was on the payroll in Afghanistan, except the Saudis.
It was not true. And a small section CIA knew perfectly well that we had once again hired the Arab Nazis and that we were using them to fight our secret wars.
Azzam and his assistant, Osama Bin Ladin, rose to some prominence from 1979 to '89, and they won the war.

They had driven the Russians out of Afghanistan. So our CIA said, "We won, let's go home!" and we left this army of Arab fascists in the field of Afghanistan.

The Saudis did not want them to come back.

So the Saudis started paying bribes to Osama Bin Ladin and his followers to stay out of Saudi Arabia. And this, split the MAK half.

Azzam was assassinated and apparently by Osama Bin Ladin himself. The radical group - - the most radical of the merge of the Arab fascists and religious extremists - - Osama called that al Qaeda.

To this day, there are branches of the Muslim Brotherhood all through al Qaeda.

Osama Bin Ladin's second in command, Ayman al-Zawahiri, came from the Egyptian branch of the Muslim Brotherhood, the Egyptian Islamic Jihad, wich was a result of a Palestinian Islamic Jihad.

While there are many flavors & branches, they are all Muslim Brotherhoods.

There is one in Israel. The organization known as "Hammas" is
actually a secret chapter of the Muslim Brotherhood.

When Israel assassinated Sheik Yassin a month ago, the Muslim Brotherhood published his obituary in a Cairo news- paper in Arabic and revealed that he was actually the secret leader of the Muslim Brotherhood in Gaza.

So the Muslim Brotherhood has became this poison which spread throughout the Middle East and on 9 - 11, it began to spread around the world.

I know all of this sounds like some sort of a sick fantasy, only you can go to your computer and type in the words "Vanna," V-a-n-n-a and the word "Nazi," N-a-z-i, and you will see all of the articles come
up.

Those are all the pieces of information that the CIA was trying to hide from its employees. It did not want them to know the awful past

In 1984, while I was exposing European Nazis on the CIA payroll, at the same time, they were trying to hide from Congress the fact they had Arab Nazis back on the payroll to fight the Russians - - a really stupid and corrupt program.

So, when Bob Baer studied his files, he was just stunned.

A whole new generation: all the current CIA people know nothing about this. And believe me, the current generation CIA are good and decent Americans and I like them a lot.

They're trying to do a good job, only part of their problem is that their files have been shredded. All of these secrets have to come
out.

My clients in the intelligence community said,

"Well, what are you doing about this ?"

They gave me an example.

"Here's how the Saudis finance these groups. The Saudis have established a group of charities on a street in Virginia.
It's 555 Grove St., Herndon, Virginia."

So I said, "OK the Saudis are terrorists,
so what?"

These charities fund Hamas, Hezbollah, Muslim Brotherhood and al
Qaeda. And the Saudis are getting tax deductions for terrorism.
They have set up front groups so all the terrorists groups in the U.S. and the front groups get the Saudi money as a charitable donation.

I said, "You're kidding me."

Nope. And then they told me that right near where I lived in Tampa, Florida was one of the leading terrorists in the world.

There were two professors at the University of South Florida. One had just left - - and he was now in Syria - - and he was the world head of Islamic Jihad.

His number two, the head of Islamic Jihad in the Western Hemisphere, was Dr. Sami al-Arian, who is still employed as a professor at the University of South Florida.

You've got to be kidding. This can't be true!

Yes, these guys are raising money all across America and shipping it to Syria to go down to Palestine, the Palestinian areas, and to hire suicide bombers to kill Jews.

They sent me the video tapes. There was Professor al-Arian on stage
and one of his friends gets up and says:

"Now, who will give me $500 to kill a Jew? There are people standing
by in Jerusalem who will go out in the street and stab a Jew with a knife, but we need $500. All of this money will go to the Islamic committee for Palestine."

And that is the front group in the United States for the Palestinian Islamic Jihad.
With this, I asked all my friends in the FBI and CIA send in these files.

I said, "Why haven't you prosecuted this guy? You've known about him since 1989."

"We'd love to. We've tried to prosecute him only we were told we couldn't touch him because he gets all of his money from the Saudis. And we are all under orders not to do anything to embarrass the Saudi government."

I said, "I don't mind embarrassing them."
So you know what I did?

I donated money to the charity that was the terrorist fund, because under Florida law,it gave me the right to sue the charity to find out where my money was going.

It was hilarious.

In early March, 2002, I drafted a long lawsuit exposing Professor Sami al-Arian, naming all the crimes he'd committed, all the bombings in Israel, the fundraising in America with terrorism. I mentioned how
his money got to him from the Saudis and how the Saudis had convinced our government not to prosecute him for political reasons.

Because of my high-level security clearances, everything I write is sort of classified material and has to be sent back to the government before publication, for censorship.

So I sent my long lawsuit complaint to the CIA, and they loved it.

They said, "Oh, great. We don't like the Saudis either. Go sue
them."

Three days later two FBI Agents showed up at my door, saying, "You know, there are only 21 people in the U.S. government that knew some of this information, and now you're 22. How did you find out?"

I said, "I'm sorry, I can't tell you, attorney-client privilege."

That's why my clients pay me $1.00 each.
The day before I went to file the lawsuit, I got a frantic phone call from the United States Department of Justice. They said,

"John, please don't file the lawsuit tomorrow. We really are going to raid these Saudi charities. We're going to close them down. Just
give us more time."

"Oh yeah, you're going to raid them. That's what you told me in
January - - and again in February, and now it's March.

You want more time? I'll give you until 4:00 o'clock tomorrow. I'm filing my complaint at 10:00 a.m., so that at 4:00 p.m., I am going
to release the address of the Saudi charities.

I filed my lawsuit at 10:00 o'clock the next day, and told the press I was going to hold something back for a little bit.

Them at 10:15 am, the U.S. Government launched Operation Greenquest, a massive raid on all the Saudi charities in homes and businesses, and in one hour we shut down the entire Saudi money- laundering network in
America.

From March 20, 2002 to the present, the government has found more and more evidence seized in those archives from the single raid that day.

The evidence was so compelling that Professor al-Arian is no longer giving his speeches. He is now in a federal prison awaiting trial.

His accomplice, Hammoudeh, has also been indicted. Some 32 different people have been indicted in the United States as a direct result of these efforts.

Only not the Saudis - No, not the Saudis.

A month after I filed my lawsuit against al-Arian, When I did it: I caused some trouble. I invited some 40 of the top trial lawyers in America to come down to St. Petersburg, Florida.

Boy, did I have a deal for them. I wanted them to put up millions of dollars of their own money!

While I'm poor, I had no money to give them - - I still wanted to do something for America.

These are lawyers like Ron Motley who had won billions of dollars in their lawsuits against the tobacco industry and the asbestos
industry.

I said, "What I want you to do is look at the evidence I've
collected. It's the same Saudi banks and charities which funded Sami al-Arian and also funded al Qaeda."
I said, "I want you to bring a class action in Federal Court in Washington on behalf of everyone who died on Sept. 11th.
I'm going to work for free and collect all the evidence, introduce you to the experts, provide all the exhibits and documents . . . and we have to do this for America."

So these lawyers all studied all of the documents I had collected, and on August 15, 2002, they filed the largest class-action lawsuit in American history in the Federal District Court in Washington D.C., asking for one trillion dollars damages against the Saudis.

The lawsuit said essentially that all these Saudi banks had one thing in common. They were bribing Osama bin Ladin 300 million dollars a year to stay out of Saudi Arabia and go blow up someone else.

Well, on 9-11, we found out that we were the someone else, and the Saudis had to pay for their negligence.

That lawsuit is coming along very well.

Now, more and more people in the CIA and FBI are sort of using me as a back channel to get our information.

And believe it or not, they've actually given me my own TV show now on Sunday mornings on FOX TV nationwide. I'm on at 11:20 eastern
standard time.

Plus, ABC Radio has given me a national radio program, I'm on at 10:30 at night.

So what I've become in my old age is a teacher. Now, every day I get from 500 to 1,000 e-mails from honest men & women around the world from in the intelligence community.

We have to end the evil in this world. We must recognize that al
Qaeda simply did not spring up on its own.

The evil route was Nazism.

The al Qaeda Doctrine is the same as the Arab Nazis held. They hated Jews, they hate democracy, & they hate Westerners for Western culture.

Al Qaeda is nothing other than the religious expression of Arab Fascism.

We allowed this branch of the Nazi trunk to survive, to flourish, and it has come back to haunt us.

We must do a better job. If we are to keep our children safe, we must teach them the lessons of the past. Every generation should know what these candles mean.

That not only did one of the greatest tragedies in the history of the world really happen, that the evil that caused it - - Nazism - - survived because we didn't fight hard enough.

We did not finish the job.

We must tell our children that in every generation, the men and women of America have stood side by side with our Jewish, Christian, and Moslem brothers.

We have risen up together against this hatred. America is united now.

We will win the war on terror, and we will finish the job which soldiers and survivors started more than a half century ago. We must set the standard that to teach a child to hate is the worst form of child abuse.

We must work together to end racism in our children's lifetime. We
must teach our children to remember the Holocaust and be proud, so proud of those who survived and inspired us with their courage.

In their name, in their honor, let us go forward and fight together.

NEVER AGAIN.

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Atheist Parents Website

2004-08-02T06:38:05Z

www.atheistparents.org

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Are Any of You

2004-07-22T08:01:19Z

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Are any of you members of the Freedom From Religion Foundation? (ffrf)

If yes, do you know any of the officers?

Read any of their booKs?

Taken any of their tests?

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The Top Ten Signs You're a Fundamentalist Christian

2004-07-22T07:58:15Z

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The Top Ten Signs You're a Fundamentalist Christian

10. - You vigorously deny the existence of thousands of gods claimed by other religions, and yet you feel outraged when someone denies the existence of yours.

9. - You feel both insulted and "dehumanized" when scientists say that people evolved from other life forms, yet you have no problem with the Biblical claim that we were created from dirt.

8. - You laugh at those silly polytheists, and have no problem believing in a Triune God.

7. - Your face turns purple and you clench your teeth when you hear about the "atrocities" attributed to Allah, yet you don't even flinch when hearing about how God/Jehovah slaughtered all the babies of Egypt in "Exodus" and ordered the elimination of entire ethnic groups in "Joshua" including women, children, babies and even trees!

6. - You laugh at Hindu beliefs which deify humans, and Greek claims about gods sleeping with women.

Still, you have no problem believing the Holy Spirit impregnated Mary, who then gave birth to a man-god who got killed, came back to life and then ascended into the sky.

5. - You are willing to spend your life looking for little bitty loopholes in the scientifically established age of Earth. (a few billion years)

Yet you find nothing wrong with believing dates recorded by Bronze Age tribesmen sitting in their tents & guessing the Earth is a few generations old.

(The same guys who said the earth was flat and that it was also the center of the entire universe.)

4. - You believe that the entire population of this planet with the exception of those who share your beliefs -- and throughly excluding those in all rival sects - will spend Eternity in an infinite Hell of Suffering.

Yet you consider your religion to be the most "tolerant" and "loving."

3. - While modern science, history, DNA, anthropology, archology, geology, physics and biology have failed to convince you otherwise, some idiot rolling around on the floor speaking in "tongues" may be all the evidence you need to "prove" that Christianity is true.

2. - You define 0.01% as a "high success rate" when it comes to answered prayers.
You consider that to be evidence prayer works. And you think the remaining 99.99% FAILURE was simply the will of God.

1. - You actually know a lot less than many atheists and agnostics do about the Bible, Christianity, and church history - yet still call yourself a Christian.

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